Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz (2024)

pink cigarettes said:

People who have survived childhood sex abuse and/or people who are simply somewhat sane and healthy and/or those who want to protect their children recognize how disturbing all of this stuff is. And yet, these monstrous weirdos, after devoting a lifetime to promoting the castration and cross-dressing of little boys, will point to threads like this one and say "wow, looks like YOU'RE the one obsessed with kids genitals! Over 900 pages, seems pretty sus to me!"

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Plenty of troons and troon apologists will also claim to be CSA victims in order to garner sympathy and disingenuously imply, "I'm a sexual abuse victim, why would I want that hell inflicted on others?"

Willfully oblivious to the fact that CSA victims are statistically more likely to repeat the cycle themselves, and otherwise telling on themselves and making themselves look even worse than if they'd just shut up.

At absolute best, it only makes the point that hom*osexuality or transgenderism are caused by sexual abuse.

Diana89 said:

I'm also in the camp that the twins didn't let baby brother into their unit, so he identified with and modeled himself after Ari. In plain language, he played with her and her toys instead. Yes, Jeanette's a narcissist. But I honestly don't understand why the cousin who was close to and involved with the family who also just happened to be a student of childhood transgenderism at the time is so heavily discounted in this. So obviously the key.

Where's this "autobiography"?

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A little boy saying he wants to be a girl because he's modeling after his sister isn't the behavior I'm referencing. There is no "autobiography," because that would mean Jazz wrote a book himself, which I'm sure he did not.

A mother and a father have a responsibility to protect their children from the notions of the creepy cousins who want to castrate them. No matter who promotes the ideas, and no matter how many usernames you switch to in your bizarre ongoing attempt to absolve his parents.

pink cigarettes said:

It's like starting a foundation that helps stop FGM and then someone calls you a groomer obsessed with little girls. Like nah, nigg* I don't want to have to think of this ever again, wtf.

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Perfectly put and not a comparison I've ever seen/considered before but most definitely something relevant that I'd love to see a TRA response to.

hogdogmog said:

Some totally normal screenshots from Sander's latest Instagram post, apparently premised on his bikini-clad siblings jumping over the camera while he watches on through their legs.
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Sander is losing it, big time. What the f*ck?

Edit: Nevermind, read @and I must scream 's post clarifying things regarding these photos.

Any family that puts such an emphasis on genitals is going to be f*cking weird. Even  if he was parroting his sister, even  if the twins blocked him out, even if he was the gayest flaming toddler giving Elton John a run for his money Jazz's parents made his genitals the focal point of his life. What his genitals were, what they weren't, when they'd be able to surgically change them to be "right," remember when Jazz was like 15/16 and his moobs came in f*cked and what did mommy dearest do? Try to her teen a boob job so they'd be perfect.

I dont think a lot of us can fathom Growing Up Jazz, literally imagine ANY issue you had as a child/teen and instead of being supportive or talking through the problem your parents inform you that it's because your genitals are wrong. All normal kid issues are because you have a penis and everyone knows you have a penis and you're not supposed to!

A quick perusal and I found a summary of Jazz' book here:

and some snippets from the book here:

and batsh*t cousins' dissertation here:

The "expressive art" is poetry.

My cravat doesn't flutter said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't advanced knowledge of sexual anatomy a telltale sign of sexual abuse?

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Not always. At least, not physical abuse. One could argue that adults teaching children about sexual concepts at a very young age is abuse - I certainly regard it as such.

My cravat doesn't flutter said:

A 2yo boy knowing what a vagin* is - that's concerning. It's a body part he doesn't have and should not be familiar with. He absolutely shouldn't know that the two are counterparts

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Agreed.

pink cigarettes said:

But Jeanette is worse than all that. Because she's a sex abuser, at least on an emotional level, and always has been. That home has zero healthy boundaries. She has always been so specifically focused on his genitals, his penis, his new "vagin*," and forcing the narrative down his throat about what it all means and what he needs to say and feel (and NOT say) about it.

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This. I see no evidence at all of any physical abuse. What I see is a weak man - Greg - who married an overbearing narcissist - Jeanette - who has spent years chasing clout.

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Iron Jaguar said:

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Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz

One could argue that adults teaching children about sexual concepts at a very young age is abuse - I certainly regard it as such.

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It's an incredibly risky thing to teach young children who aren't old enough to fully understand the ramifications of sex. Something I don't think most people consider is that children are capable of getting pregnant as well as impregnating others. Children are curious. If kids know the mechanics of having sex and that it's a really fun thing that boys and girls do together - and can get past how icky the opposite sex is - they may very well decide to try it out with their friend. We're all born with the necessary parts and precocious puberty is a bitch.

Diana89 said:

I'm also in the camp that the twins didn't let baby brother into their unit, so he identified with and modeled himself after Ari. In plain language, he played with her and her toys instead. Yes, Jeanette's a narcissist. But I honestly don't understand why the cousin who was close to and involved with the family who also just happened to be a student of childhood transgenderism at the time is so heavily discounted in this. So obviously the key.

Where's this "autobiography"?

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I've told you before, if you have some relevant info or speculations feel free to share, we are listening.
But all you've done so far is to sperg like a retard.

My cravat doesn't flutter said:

It's an incredibly risky thing to teach young children who aren't old enough to fully understand the ramifications of sex. Something I don't think most people consider is that children are capable of getting pregnant as well as impregnating others. Children are curious. If kids know the mechanics of having sex and that it's a really fun thing that boys and girls do together - and can get past how icky the opposite sex is - they may very well decide to try it out with their friend. We're all born with the necessary parts and precocious puberty is a bitch.

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Weeelllllll.... With teens, you certainly have this problem, and for some preteens this might also be a concern. Not in a kindergarten, though. There are other concerns with children that young, but not that.

The youngest ever confirmed case of a human male fathering a child was 11.

My cravat doesn't flutter said:

Something I don't think most people consider is that children are capable of getting pregnant as well as impregnating others.

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I'm talking about children, not pubescent early teens.

Diana89 said:

The "expressive art" is poetry.

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Literal AI could write something better.

KiwiFuzz2 said:

Literal AI could write something better.

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Att vara precis den du är... djupa andetag.

Där under himlen. En människa som jag.. vill leva varje dag! Att vara precis den jag är!

En molntuss... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhYAIQ8va6g

Diana89 said:

I'm also in the camp that the twins didn't let baby brother into their unit, so he identified with and modeled himself after Ari. In plain language, he played with her and her toys instead. Yes, Jeanette's a narcissist. But I honestly don't understand why the cousin who was close to and involved with the family who also just happened to be a student of childhood transgenderism at the time is so heavily discounted in this. So obviously the key.

Where's this "autobiography"?

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We don't say the apple that fell on Newton discovered gravity, do we?

Cousin Debbie is the apple, Jeanette is the munchie mom that realized mysterious illnesses were so last year and picked something else to do to her toddler. Debbie is where she got the idea, and since blood relative Debbie was into it, that means that the whole family was f*cking bonkers from the beginning.

Debbie could be added to the OP as the inspiration for the troon out, but that's about as far as her involvement goes. I fully believe Jaron was doomed from the beginning and troondom is just how it happened to manifest.

Cousin Debbie had more involvement than just the idea; the professor who signed off on her dissertation (again, starring none other than Jaron) is the same therapist who wore that stupid little hat during sessions that we saw on the show counseling the child for YEARS afterwards. But, of course, that doesn't "absolve" the parents; they're alone responsible for making a huge public spectacle of Jazz, also making it impossible for him to ever have second thoughts (or even first thoughts of his own), reconsider the situation, or reverse course before it was too late, which I believe he would have if not by then in the public eye and were not Jeanette's love and approval contingent on his following through. Cousin Debbie started it, Jeanette finished it; both for their own selfish, self-serving reasons. Both things can be true at the same time; they're not mutually exclusive. ALL, including the doctors, are guilty, Jeanette bearing the most guilt. The Cousin Debbie element merely explains where and how it started. I personally don't believe it's attributable to abuse by either of the twins.

unwieldy_object said:

I've told you before, if you have some relevant info or speculations feel free to share, we are listening.
But all you've done so far is to sperg like a retard.

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So maybe read the dissertation now that you have a link to it.

Iron Jaguar said:

I'm talking about children, not pubescent early teens.

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World's youngest mother was 5. Like I said, children are capable of reproducing.

My cravat doesn't flutter said:

World's youngest mother was 5. Like I said, children are capable of reproducing.

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That was one very specific case that hasn't repeated. That happened in Peru and the lower of pregnancies by rwpe involving girls now is 11, very rare and in specific areas.